After lunch, a series of panels, followed two sessions in each of four streams.
First up, a panel session on 'apprenticeship completions' facilitated by Dr. Warren Guest. The panel include Suzi Hewlett (Manufacturing skills alliance), Brett Schimming, (Build skills Australia) Quinn Sunderland, Manufacturing skills Queensland) and David Camper (VET educator / employer - motor engineering). Warren provided some background and the reasons for the panel which is sponsored by the Manufacturing sector. Apprenticeships have a long history, continual challenges with regard to completions, and in the age of AI, perhaps needs to be reconsidered.
Suzy summarised a recent report undertaken on skills. Apprenticeship uncompletions have historically been high - dating back to the guilds! NCVER carried out the project with manufacturing apprentices starting 2019 with over 1000 apprentices data analyses. Custom data used - with many going through several employers to complete, bringing the 50% to a 60% completions rate. Workplaces in regional areas tended to have higher completions. Priority cohorts lower than average. Most common for driving non-completion are workplace factors - usually based around affordances to training. Also mismatch between off and on job 'curriculum' due to equipment availability. Flexibility and RPL availability also cited. Need to improve supervisor training, wrap around support for apprentices, and financial incentives for both employer and apprentices.
Brett agreed the themes similar in the Building industry. However, some contextual differences. Workplace culture and behaviour are factors. Many apprentices leave a workplace and move into another to try to complete. Lack of flexibility in 'time served' also an issue as the difference between apprentice wages and 'qualified' wages is large.
Quinn encouraged research in to finding out if the apprenticeship non-completion rate is 'set' and how this challenge can be met. Mismatched expectations between apprentices and workplace.can be one factor. Economic reality of apprenticeship is that there is a disconnect between what young people are interested and what is actually available. Example of fashion for people wanting to become designers, but what the industry needs are sail makers.
Suzy shared learnings from using promotional tasters, try a trade, etc. and found not one method was better for exposure. Media exposure often lead to increased interest in an occupation but the realities often mean many do not continue. Increased average of apprentices as people decide later in life to commit. Stickiness is difficult, especially if the work is challenging/difficult and workplace culture is not supportive. Discussion amongst the panel on above. Economical viability in many SMEs means that training and dealing with novice worker.is now too difficult. However, apprentices still well regarded and needs to be supported.
David reiterated that industry needs to put in the commitment. TAFE and school not able to train for every variation for job tasks. Industry still needs to play their role. Perhaps training for workplace trainers/supervisors etc. will be useful. In general turnover in all jobs is between 2 - 3 years, which is less than apprenticeships of 3 - 4 years. School pathways need to provide opportunities for students to 'try things out'. Decisions can be made to engage or that an occupation does not match.
Brett discussed certification of trainers. However, the key is that it is not just trainers but the ecosystem in the workplace may not still be supportive. However, trainers need to understand how to get the most out of their apprentices, and care for their workers.
The panel provided examples of things that work. In particular, flexibility in how training is availed, matched to the needs of learners and employers.
Then a presentation on the Australian - Indian - advancing research programme with Deepak-Raj Gupta (0n video) and Sonal Nakar. The programme with the Australia-India Business Council over 40 years. Sonal detailed the delegation to India and the various initiatives that were discussed and experienced. Opportunities are available with various institutions, centres of excellence etc. for joint projects with possible funding streams for research.
The conference convened to provide a tribute to Berwyn Clayton, who passed on a few weeks ago. She was a prolific Australia VET practitioner, researcher and AVETRA leader. Andrew Williamson initiated the session. Tributes presented from various AVETRA members both f2f and from online messages.
Two 'long presentation' sessions across the 4 streams then occurred. I stayed in the AI stream.
- 'Gen AI and assessment in VET: A systematic review of three wicked problemss" a PRISMA 2020 systematic review of Gen AI and assessment in VET - with Geethani Nair (Skills Bridge Solutions). Project completed with Dr. Wijendra Guanthilake amd Ishini Hathruisinghe from Sri Lanka. VET Gen AI problem is structurally different from Higher Education (HE). In HE there is a focus on academic integrity frame; VET has a workplace competency frame - use of AI required and it is around capability with AI. Gen AI already in the classrooms.
54 peer-reviewed and grey literature, 3 interlocking wicked problems unique to VET assessments and compared Australia and Sri Lanka national systems. Research Questions include - how can VET providers maintain industry cridibility when integrating Gen AI in assessment?, How can VET providers preserve the employer validation of graduates' independent competency? and How can VET providers ensure assessment authenticity while leveraging Gen AI in rapidly changing technological and workplace contexts?
Identified 412 (2022 to 2025), screened to 186, 98 eligible and 54 included in synthesis. For RQ1 - students use Gen AI to produce written deliverables; even authentic workplace-relevant tasks can be Gen Ai substituted without reliable detection. Therefore for RQ2 - detection dominates; For RQ1 - workflow integration across browsers, word editors, etc. so for RQ2 - redesign of assessments is uneven. In RQ3 authenticity as design fails as is does not prevent substitutions. RQ HE guidance imported but scarce in VET.
Wicked problems require institutional rather than purely technical response. Require ongoing management rather than single-point solutions. Identified 3 patterns as wicked problems. Industry credibility becomes challenged if detection dominates. Even VET's preferred response must go further than task design - as redesign of assessments is uneven. No common language between employers and RTOs for what counts as valid - as HE guidance imported and not always relevant to VET.
Therefore assessment design needs to account for industry credibility, employer validation and assessment authenticity. Shared recommendations for each. Provided examples of how challenging each of these wicked problems is. Across the two systems, Sri Lanka has a larger digital divide, so the context is different. Recommends for RTOs, policy, and practitioners. Phase 2 will interview students and VET educators to see what the wicked problems mean.
- I then present on 'the changing role of VET educators in the age of AI: from 'guide on the side' to 'conductor of learning'. The argument was for greater pedagogical understanding to ensure that AI can be deployed effectively to support learning. Implications of using AI which is relevant, ethics around how to deploy, AI use replacing actual deliberate practice, and care needed when using AI to support teaching admin and resource development.
AVETRA AGM followed and the conference dinner. A long but productive day.